Just wanted to say zipper that I understand the frustration when it doesn't look like they are helping themselves. I feel like its not worth trying at the moment because how many times do you need to tell someone to exercise only to have them agree then not do it?? I feel like I'm not getting thru to my hubby that this is serious, I can't go on with the current situation forever and at some point he needs to really start making a proper committed effort. But what to do in the meantime? Its very hard to keep maintaining a positive relationship in these circumstances. At the moment we are in a bit of limbo really, me trying to give him space although I have been pushing the review of meds idea. I truly don't think he sees how hard this is for me.