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13-04-2025 08:12 PM
13-04-2025 08:12 PM
Our conductor is trying to manage her @tyme but she is so pedantic, disruptive and attention seeking during rehearsal and upset quite a few people in the community in our festival away. She would not be happy, but I have to call her the "badly behaved psychiatrist" and maybe I am her karma. Idk. I feel considering the damage her profession has done to my family, I am being very restrained and polite. It's about interpersonal boundaries and respect and teamwork. She always wants the big solo. Eye roll....
I have known 5 psychiatrists socially, given the small sample sizes of some articles in the scientific literature I might be able to publish some interesting observations....
13-04-2025 08:26 PM
13-04-2025 08:26 PM
Oh! @Appleblossom - so you know her on a social level! I thought she was treating you!
13-04-2025 08:37 PM
13-04-2025 08:37 PM
Yes @tyme Socially. My girlfriend can't stand her. I was nice cos we had a few connections in common, but she really got up my nose.
She also knew one of my old lecturers. We have the same alma Mater. I think she is finding it challenging to reconcile that both my parents had the so called Schizophrenia diagnosis. I told her January 15 months ago. Was it a mistake to disclose? I was just over shame and being careful... So am letting the cat out of the bag... These days
13-04-2025 08:41 PM
13-04-2025 08:41 PM
arghhhh @Appleblossom ... I can see how uncomfortable it may feel to have everything you say and do critiqued by a psych...
Stay away?
13-04-2025 09:16 PM
13-04-2025 09:16 PM
So I did the walk away approach all my life... @tyme Til I just ended up geurilla gardening, dreaming of digging my own grave, and then going on NDIS. Step away be polite...
I actually do have another option with a better ensemble which I am checking out end of April.
However the path and the group emerged in an organic manner a couple years ago.
But with the work I have done with my wonderful young support worker who also has a psychology degree but doesn't charge like a psychologist, is suggesting I needed to learn to stand my ground.
Eg I had similar bullying at my church... Bullies don't like being the butt of a joke, so last couple years I have been really struggling with it all, but the social reversals in the bully has shown me, that it is my SOUL WORK. It's a recurrent theme.
Honestly at my wit's end and praying about it a lot.
13-04-2025 09:26 PM
13-04-2025 09:26 PM
Hugs @Appleblossom .
Please take care and look after yourself. You do not need to let people walk all over you.
13-04-2025 09:43 PM
13-04-2025 09:43 PM
Humour is a great leveller @Appleblossom and in the right spirit need not be cruel or derogatory. Irony or even a little sarcasm has its place. If you've converted a bully well done you.
I have a relationship I need to reengineer as I can't walk away from it. Forbearance has been my aim but it's distressing so I'm seeking advice from a MH Social Worker.
I've not known psychiatrists socially but some teachers and academics set themselves on a pedestal and can be quite controlling.
13-04-2025 10:17 PM
13-04-2025 10:17 PM
Thank you @Dimity
The church lady who put me down also jeered about disabled people with her friend, but I now have enough friends, and learning to claim social space with energy, for her to learn to curb her tongue.
I guess hoping that everyone gets along is a bit childish. My support worker identified I was doing Shadow work, and I agree, and am working on my way of being in the social world, beyond being a good girl. Now I am claiming the right to have fun, not hurting anyone, but not taking on role of whipping post or scapegoat, which I did in the past.
The problem is that the field of music involved is fairly boutique. I really like the conductor, have friends in the group, so to leave because of an annoying person means I lose a lot.
13-04-2025 10:45 PM
13-04-2025 10:45 PM
I respect shadow work @Appleblossom but have lacked the emotional maturity and insight.
I remember asking HR for help with bullying and was accused of my own anger management issues. I took flight from the job. Freeze most usually, flight sometimes, were my pattern.
I understand re the music. One would have hoped the conductor took on more of a leadership and mentoring role and accepted responsibility for ensemble dynamics. If you've been lucky enough to have another ensemble on offer at least you'll have a choice, rather than giving up altogether. Perhaps you're more vulnerable to the psychodynamics when you have other stressors - as you do at the moment.
Cherish your support worker.
13-04-2025 11:11 PM
13-04-2025 11:11 PM
Actually I liked that the conductor was very collegial and said it to her today.
There are a few other professional musos in the group, so a lot of good quality. It is great doing music with good musos.
The problem lady needs to learn the discipline of classical music rehearsal manners. She is new to it. I am not. She disturbed group today by referring to a tv series which had the music, I let her know I did more music than TV watching. I think I made my point.
The conductor had earlier tried to rein her in by saying it was her last question and was still too polite to say she was wasting everyone's time.
The conductor comes from an ethnicity that has been generally demonised by the ethnicity of the badly behaved psychiatrist. It is tricky.
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